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I am in Texas and hope someone here speaks English. I find it difficult to write Deutsch, but read it fairly well (70-80% and use Dictionary for the rest) and speak it between fair and terrible with some Mainzer slang mixed in.
If you wish you can answer in Deutsch...
I saw a Utube video of a Deutscher making Dinkel beer. He fermented it for 2 days, skimmed off the krausen, bottled it and it was ready for drinking in 7 days. Is that even possible and have a decent beer???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I6Z8rzw14U

I am very interested in making authentic (as much as possible) German beers I remember from 1960 (my favorite Mainzer Aktien Bier) and don't want to follow bad recipes.
Would perhaps anyone know of a recipe clone/replica of that Mainzer beer. If so, I also know that I will need to treat my water to as closely match the Mainz water supply (still learning)...
Thank you in advance for any assistance.


[Editiert am 26.12.2011 um 20:50 von Alte Genieser]
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Hi,

it may be possible to brew a Beer that was drinkable in 7 Days, but that Beer would not taste good and would not be clear.
Fermenting should take a minimum of 7 Days, afer bottling you should wait a minimum of 14 Days (for a Wheat Beer, Dinkel is a Kind of Wheat. Other Beers a minimum of 4 Weeks). It all depends of the Receipe and the Germ you use. There are Beerstyles that need months after bottling for real good taste.
I dont know Mainzer Beer, whas that a Pilsener Beer?

Greetings, Oliver


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Thank you for your quick response Oliver.
It has been over 50 years, but I think the Mainzer Aktien was a fassbier, and a form of Helles?, not a Pils. The MAB Bierbraurei was taken by Binding Bierbraurei Frankfurt in late 60's or 70's. Now they offer only a MAB Export. I am not familiar with the Export, if it is the same or not.

I must apologize Oliver, this is my first time use and when I tried to answer (antworden) your message I clicked Melden by mistake. I hope this is not a problem for you. If it is, can you tell me who I should contact. I will try to see if I can get it reversed. :(


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Ich denke es handelt sich um diese Brauerei:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainzer_Aktien-Bierbrauerei

Leider war ich zu der Zeit als die Brauerei geschlossen wurde noch nicht auf der Welt, aber evtl. kann sich ja sonst jemand erinnern und
diesbezüglich Tipps geben.
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hi,

try to read this article :
http://www.sensor-magazin.de/mainzer-biere-und-brauereien-u nd-am-wochenende-ist-bierborse/

The MAB is still brewed by Binding, it is a cloudy top fermented beer .
You can have it on tap even in my region ( Cologne) at some pubs like the legendary "Treppchen" in Rodenkirchen
or the Gaststätte Wirtz Center of Cologne !

Its possible, that it is not exported ´cause it doesnt last very long :D

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Hello Alte Genieser,
I always brew on Friday,fermentation on Friday night during saturday til sunday morning.-Than filling in bottles.-3 days and ready. :)
The fermentation is warm 20°C +/- 3°C and i use a "obergärige" yeast.
You can drink this beer after 7 days,but it tastes better if you wait 2 weeks and longer..... :)


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Ok, thanks, I might try a Dinkel beer sometime. I also thank all of you for your timely responses and the link to Sensor-Mainz somewhat describing MAB; "Helles Märzen“, in der klassischen Form "urig, vollmundig“ und als Märzen „im Geschmackmalzbetont, aber süffig“, Alle Biere haben unter 5 Prozent Alkoholgehalt.
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I think I may be able to come up with a recipe somewhat similiar to the MAB if I do a Marzen helles type beer, with a medium hop level using Hallertauer or Tettnanger and a top fermenting yeast, possibly Safale US-05 or S-04. I can ferment down to 15C-18C 2-3 weeks and bottle condition 18C-21C. I currently make 8L batches but may move to 20L if it turns out well. Should be drinkable total 2 months time.

I know it may seem strange to have someone searching for a beer that was made over 50 years ago, but as you get older nostalgia sets in and you enjoy thinking back on the good times in life and enjoying those things you are familiar with and loved. The very best times of my life were my 10 years in Germany. If heaven can be like Germany in the 50's and 60's, I would go now. I liked it so much I even married a Mainzer Madel and brought her back with me to the land of the round door knobs. When we argue, as most people do, she lovingly, I think, tells me "Bebber nit so viel", and calls me "Rindvieh". She says she would just love to find the guy that introduced us. I think she wants to thank him and give him a big hug, dont you?. She says "tricken ihm rum den hals". ;)


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Zitat von Alte Genieser, am 27.12.2011 um 19:11
...she wants to thank him and give him a big hug... She says "tricken ihm rum den hals". ;)

LMAO :D

For a german style beer you may want a clear fermenting yeast as US-05 or Danstar Nottingham are. The S-04 gives you too many english flavors. And be patient. There is no need to rush other than probably a big thirst, but your beer will definately benefit from enough time given to mature.
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