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Dear Brewfriends

two questions...:

Cooling wort: What equipment usualy is most used by german brewers? It has link with photos? Can I make a good cooling wort sistem?
By not having good equipment now I take around two hours to cool the mash ... it must be bad!?

temperature control maturation: As is usually temperature control of fermentation and maturation?

Thanks for the help ... Wamser
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Hi Wamser

some brewers here cool their worth down with spezial heat exchangers like this

or with a copper or stainless steel helix like this

to control the temperature is very important during fermentation and maturationprozess!!!

regards Doppel


[Editiert am 5.5.2010 um 13:31 von Doppelmeter]



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Hello Wamser,for cooling wort,i fill the hot wort into a tinpot.This pot i place in a plastic tub with 3 paving stones(heatprotection)on the bottom.Than i bring cold water with a hose in the tub,the hose fixed under the tinpot.The water shall rinse over the border of the tub.
So i get in one hour wort from 100°C to 22°C.-I have a watersource in my garden with a electric pump!
You can also use a little creek,if there is one near by You! ;)
Greets,Wildey......
Be sure,the tinpot must be higher than the tub!!!


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Hi Wamser,
for cooling wort I use this counter-flow heat exchanger that I built at home. It's basically a bendable copper-tube inside a garden-hose. The endpieces are fairly easy to solder. Have a look at this construction manual. It's in german, but the pictures are easy to comprehend.

http://www.brauherr.de/sogehts/bauanleitung/durchlaufkuehler/

It works perfectly and I'm glad I built it. I used to let my wort cool outside over night for about 12 hours. Now it takes me a couple of minutes.

greetings,

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Zitat von Sascho, am 5.5.2010 um 14:39
Hi Wamser,
for cooling wort I use this counter-flow heat exchanger that I built at home. It's basically a bendable copper-tube inside a garden-hose. The endpieces are fairly easy to solder. Have a look at this construction manual. It's in german, but the pictures are easy to comprehend.

http://www.brauherr.de/sogehts/bauanleitung/durchlaufkuehler/

It works perfectly and I'm glad I built it. I used to let my wort cool outside over night for about 12 hours. Now it takes me a couple of minutes.

greetings,

Sascho


I make my counterflow. Today I will buy the items and I'll make a counterflow chiller.
I send the photos!

And what better way to clean this against the flow?
Here in my town, the staff do not like because this is more easy for contamination the beer... what are you doing?

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Hi Wamser,
for cleaning I use conventional dishwashing detergent at first with little spongeballs I made myself out of a big sponge. With enough water preassure you can shout those balls rigt through the tube. :D
Since the detergent is not so good for foam stability in the finished beer I wash the tube afterwards with enough water and citric acid. So far no side effects, but I only used the device only twice so far. I'm not really the expert on which kind of cleaning agent to use for which material though. Maybe someone else here can help you out if you need further help.

Sascho


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Zitat von Sascho, am 5.5.2010 um 18:58
Hi Wamser,
for cleaning I use conventional dishwashing detergent at first with little spongeballs I made myself out of a big sponge. With enough water preassure you can shout those balls rigt through the tube. :D
Since the detergent is not so good for foam stability in the finished beer I wash the tube afterwards with enough water and citric acid. So far no side effects, but I only used the device only twice so far. I'm not really the expert on which kind of cleaning agent to use for which material though. Maybe someone else here can help you out if you need further help.

Sascho


can you send me a picture of your spongeballs?
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hi warmser,

you can see the spongeballs at this site:

http://www.braupartner.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1_59& products_id=404

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Zitat von FUH, am 5.5.2010 um 20:42
hi warmser,

you can see the spongeballs at this site:

http://www.braupartner.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1_59& products_id=404

fuh


I can buy for this site?

I realize that my German brewFriends do not have the problem of contamination with this chiller
it motivates me to go against the guidelines here in my city ... they say to use chiles immersion, but it takes much

I'm starting to study how to make wheat beers ...
any suggestions of where to start?
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Hi Wamser,
a counter flow plate heatexchanger is the way to go over here. For cleaning regime just use hot caustic soda, followed by hot citric acid, just leave it recirculating for a certain time.
That´s all.

Cheers

sorry, I´ve almost forgotten: If you wanna brew a Hefeweizen, you´d need a typical wheat yeast strain, such as Whyeast 3068 at the first place.
The grain bill could be 50 to 70% pure wheat malt and 50 to 30% pilsener malt.
Mashing time around 60 min. at 66°C.
That´s quite easy.

good luck


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